From colindw at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 16:02:20 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Fri Nov 2 16:03:20 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Make Leopard Dock better with dark glossy dock Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: newdock.png Type: image/png Size: 65884 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://amesmug.ag.iastate.edu/pipermail/amesmug/attachments/20071102/6a08e9d9/newdock-0001.png From jrearick at bobbis.net Fri Nov 2 16:56:22 2007 From: jrearick at bobbis.net (John Rearick) Date: Fri Nov 2 16:57:29 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Make Leopard Dock better with dark glossy dock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <608A84A0-9A48-4BA1-A3C6-AC8E64263259@bobbis.net> Where can I find how to do this mod? John On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Colin Wheeler wrote: > Looks like someone has made a dock mod that makes the dock look > somewhat decent, though those shadows still bug me. Heres my dock > with this mod > > Colin Wheeler > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. From colindw at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 18:22:46 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Fri Nov 2 18:23:49 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Make Leopard Dock better with dark glossy dock In-Reply-To: References: <608A84A0-9A48-4BA1-A3C6-AC8E64263259@bobbis.net> Message-ID: EDIT: I found a much better dock replacement http://forums.macnn.com/94/gui-customization/352627/leopard-dark-glass-dock-mod-new/ On 11/2/07, Colin Wheeler wrote: > > Sorry I lost the link I have the ZIP file with the instructions and files > attached here. > > Colin Wheeler > > On 11/2/07, John Rearick wrote: > > > > Where can I find how to do this mod? > > > > John > > > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Colin Wheeler wrote: > > > > > Looks like someone has made a dock mod that makes the dock look > > > somewhat decent, though those shadows still bug me. 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Leopard Dock.zip Type: application/zip Size: 389040 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://amesmug.ag.iastate.edu/pipermail/amesmug/attachments/20071102/da100521/H.C.LeopardDock-0001.zip From cacolby3 at iastate.edu Mon Nov 5 20:21:18 2007 From: cacolby3 at iastate.edu (Clark Colby) Date: Mon Nov 5 20:22:16 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Word Closing In-Reply-To: References: <608A84A0-9A48-4BA1-A3C6-AC8E64263259@bobbis.net> Message-ID: Alright so i have an illegal version of word that apparently a lot of people also have. So when i am on the internet and open word if someone else in that network also has that version of word it kicks me off. It is driving me nuts! Is there any way to make word not connect to the internet. Because a lot of the time i can only use it if i turn off my wireless. Thanks, Clark Colby From cacolby3 at iastate.edu Mon Nov 5 20:50:53 2007 From: cacolby3 at iastate.edu (Clark Colby) Date: Mon Nov 5 20:51:51 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: I think i need to use AppleScript Message-ID: Are there other ways other than blocking a firewall on AppleScript? If not then how do you use applescript? Hahaha man i know nothing! Clark Colby From cacolby3 at iastate.edu Mon Nov 5 20:57:13 2007 From: cacolby3 at iastate.edu (Clark Colby) Date: Mon Nov 5 20:58:11 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Alright I think i got it! Message-ID: <83FD0657-4553-438E-8CEE-A3DA83D22742@iastate.edu> Sorry to bother you all! I figured it out! I am learning! Slowly..... From colindw at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 09:52:20 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Wed Nov 7 09:53:18 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Good Alternate 500GB-1TB Hard Drives Message-ID: hey everybody, im looking for a good 500GB - 1TB external Hard Drive for general storage. Im planning on taking all the files on my 200GB LaCiE HD ( USB, FW400,FW800) and dumping them onto this new HD and turning the 200GB HD into a dedicated time machine backup hard drive since it's slightly bigger than my 160 GB MacBook Pro HD. So I went looking for a good 500GB-1TB hard drive and found one I really liked here ( http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10943 ) but then they've been out of stock in that for a while now and I am beginning to be impatient. What are some good hard drive makers that you trust and use? I want at a bare minimum a Firewire 400 connection because I always have something plugged into both my USB ports and I find Firewire is much faster for transferring files anyway, also having Firewire 800 and/or USB 2 could be good. Colin Wheeler http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project From jrearick at bobbis.net Wed Nov 7 10:54:09 2007 From: jrearick at bobbis.net (John Rearick) Date: Wed Nov 7 10:55:21 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: CocoaHeads Carpool References: Message-ID: <898B64FD-FEB6-47F5-8FAC-8BF420C53CB6@bobbis.net> CocoaHeads is tomorrow (11-8) at 7pm at the DMACC West Des Moines Campus. Anyone interested in carpooling? John Begin forwarded message: > From: "Myztik Jenz" > Date: November 5, 2007 11:39:33 AM CST > To: des-moines-cocoaheads@googlegroups.com > Subject: [dmcocoa] Meeting: November 8th - DMACC West Campus > Reply-To: des-moines-cocoaheads@googlegroups.com > > > Sorry I didn't mail the list sooner. The meeting's been posted to > cocoaheads.org for a while now (if you didn't happen to catch it) > > http://cocoaheads.org/us/DesMoinesIowa/index.html > > The agenda: There's no set discussion or presenter, but we'll be > reviewing new and fun Cocoa features in Leopard (working, sorta > working, and even those that are so horribly buggy it's an affront to > all that is good and holy :) > > Jim > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Des Moines CocoaHeads" group. > To post to this group, send email to des-moines- > cocoaheads@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to des-moines-cocoaheads- > unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/des-moines-cocoaheads?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > From chrisbru at iastate.edu Wed Nov 7 12:13:45 2007 From: chrisbru at iastate.edu (W. Chris Brubaker) Date: Wed Nov 7 12:16:32 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Re: Airport Card not recognized? In-Reply-To: <20071107180002.5EF60116677@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu> References: <20071107180002.5EF60116677@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu> Message-ID: After I installed Leapord, my iMac G5 now says that I have no airport card installed. How do I fix that? I have no hard line in my room, so I'm internet less on my desktop!!! W. Chris Brubaker Accounting and Finance Majors Principal Financial Investment Accounting Co-Op Beta Theta Pi Recruitment Chairman VEISHEA Campus and Community Involvement Co-Chair 10,000 Hours Show Director of Campus Relations ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2120 Lincoln Way Ames, IA 50014 (515) 360-4898 Chrisbru@iastate.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Outstanding leaders go out of their way to boost the self-esteem of their personnel. If people believe in themselves, it's amazing what they can accomplish." -Sam Walton, University of Missouri 1940 On Nov 7, 2007, at 12:00 PM, amesmug-request@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu wrote: > Send amesmug mailing list submissions to > amesmug@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://amesmug.ag.iastate.edu/mailman/listinfo/amesmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amesmug-request@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amesmug-owner@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of amesmug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Good Alternate 500GB-1TB Hard Drives (Colin Wheeler) > 2. CocoaHeads Carpool (John Rearick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:52:20 -0600 > From: "Colin Wheeler" > Subject: AmesMUG: Good Alternate 500GB-1TB Hard Drives > To: AmesMUG > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > hey everybody, > > im looking for a good 500GB - 1TB external Hard Drive for general > storage. Im planning on taking all the files on my 200GB LaCiE HD ( > USB, FW400,FW800) and dumping them onto this new HD and turning the > 200GB HD into a dedicated time machine backup hard drive since it's > slightly bigger than my 160 GB MacBook Pro HD. So I went looking for a > good 500GB-1TB hard drive and found one I really liked here ( > http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10943 ) but then > they've been out of stock in that for a while now and I am beginning > to be impatient. > > What are some good hard drive makers that you trust and use? I want at > a bare minimum a Firewire 400 connection because I always have > something plugged into both my USB ports and I find Firewire is much > faster for transferring files anyway, also having Firewire 800 and/or > USB 2 could be good. > > Colin Wheeler > http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ > http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:54:09 -0600 > From: John Rearick > Subject: AmesMUG: CocoaHeads Carpool > To: AmesMUG list > Message-ID: <898B64FD-FEB6-47F5-8FAC-8BF420C53CB6@bobbis.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > CocoaHeads is tomorrow (11-8) at 7pm at the DMACC West Des Moines > Campus. Anyone interested in carpooling? > > John > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Myztik Jenz" >> Date: November 5, 2007 11:39:33 AM CST >> To: des-moines-cocoaheads@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [dmcocoa] Meeting: November 8th - DMACC West Campus >> Reply-To: des-moines-cocoaheads@googlegroups.com >> >> >> Sorry I didn't mail the list sooner. The meeting's been posted to >> cocoaheads.org for a while now (if you didn't happen to catch it) >> >> http://cocoaheads.org/us/DesMoinesIowa/index.html >> >> The agenda: There's no set discussion or presenter, but we'll be >> reviewing new and fun Cocoa features in Leopard (working, sorta >> working, and even those that are so horribly buggy it's an affront to >> all that is good and holy :) >> >> Jim >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Des Moines CocoaHeads" group. >> To post to this group, send email to des-moines- >> cocoaheads@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to des-moines-cocoaheads- >> unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/des-moines-cocoaheads?hl=en >> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/archive/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Also, check out http://boards.amesmug.org; for more discussions. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. > > End of amesmug Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5 > ************************************** From choff at iastate.edu Wed Nov 7 12:33:51 2007 From: choff at iastate.edu (Chris Hoff) Date: Wed Nov 7 12:34:48 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Re: Airport Card not recognized? In-Reply-To: References: <20071107180002.5EF60116677@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <758D2442-A70C-45BA-B4DF-DD95D8923C6C@iastate.edu> I have a G5 iMac running Leopard too. I didn't have your problem after upgrading, but it appears several people have. The second post at this link might help you out: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4408940 --- Chris Hoff On Nov 7, 2007, at 12:13 PM, W. Chris Brubaker wrote: > After I installed Leapord, my iMac G5 now says that I have no > airport card installed. How do I fix that? I have no hard line in > my room, so I'm internet less on my desktop!!! > > > > W. Chris Brubaker > Accounting and Finance Majors > Principal Financial Investment Accounting Co-Op > Beta Theta Pi Recruitment Chairman > VEISHEA Campus and Community Involvement Co-Chair > 10,000 Hours Show Director of Campus Relations > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 2120 Lincoln Way > Ames, IA 50014 > > (515) 360-4898 > > Chrisbru@iastate.edu > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Outstanding leaders go out of their way to boost the self-esteem of > their personnel. If people believe in themselves, it's amazing what > they can accomplish." > -Sam Walton, University of Missouri 1940 > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 2007, at 12:00 PM, amesmug-request@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu > wrote: > >> Send amesmug mailing list submissions to >> amesmug@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://amesmug.ag.iastate.edu/mailman/listinfo/amesmug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> amesmug-request@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> amesmug-owner@amesmug.ag.iastate.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of amesmug digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Good Alternate 500GB-1TB Hard Drives (Colin Wheeler) >> 2. CocoaHeads Carpool (John Rearick) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:52:20 -0600 >> From: "Colin Wheeler" >> Subject: AmesMUG: Good Alternate 500GB-1TB Hard Drives >> To: AmesMUG >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> hey everybody, >> >> im looking for a good 500GB - 1TB external Hard Drive for general >> storage. Im planning on taking all the files on my 200GB LaCiE HD ( >> USB, FW400,FW800) and dumping them onto this new HD and turning the >> 200GB HD into a dedicated time machine backup hard drive since it's >> slightly bigger than my 160 GB MacBook Pro HD. So I went looking >> for a >> good 500GB-1TB hard drive and found one I really liked here ( >> http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10943 ) but then >> they've been out of stock in that for a while now and I am beginning >> to be impatient. >> >> What are some good hard drive makers that you trust and use? I want >> at >> a bare minimum a Firewire 400 connection because I always have >> something plugged into both my USB ports and I find Firewire is much >> faster for transferring files anyway, also having Firewire 800 and/or >> USB 2 could be good. >> >> Colin Wheeler >> http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ >> http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:54:09 -0600 >> From: John Rearick >> Subject: AmesMUG: CocoaHeads Carpool >> To: AmesMUG list >> Message-ID: <898B64FD-FEB6-47F5-8FAC-8BF420C53CB6@bobbis.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> CocoaHeads is tomorrow (11-8) at 7pm at the DMACC West Des Moines >> Campus. Anyone interested in carpooling? >> >> John >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Myztik Jenz" >>> Date: November 5, 2007 11:39:33 AM CST >>> To: des-moines-cocoaheads@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: [dmcocoa] Meeting: November 8th - DMACC West Campus >>> Reply-To: des-moines-cocoaheads@googlegroups.com >>> >>> >>> Sorry I didn't mail the list sooner. The meeting's been posted to >>> cocoaheads.org for a while now (if you didn't happen to catch it) >>> >>> http://cocoaheads.org/us/DesMoinesIowa/index.html >>> >>> The agenda: There's no set discussion or presenter, but we'll be >>> reviewing new and fun Cocoa features in Leopard (working, sorta >>> working, and even those that are so horribly buggy it's an affront >>> to >>> all that is good and holy :) >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Des Moines CocoaHeads" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to des-moines- >>> cocoaheads@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to des-moines-cocoaheads- >>> unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >>> group/des-moines-cocoaheads?hl=en >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. >> >> List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on >> the web at http://www.amesmug.org/archive/amesmug. >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest >> preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group >> e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. >> >> Also, check out http://boards.amesmug.org; for more discussions. >> >> Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. >> >> End of amesmug Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5 >> ************************************** > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://amesmug.ag.iastate.edu/pipermail/amesmug/attachments/20071107/82581d05/attachment-0001.html From colindw at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 16:09:52 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Sat Nov 10 16:10:50 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? Message-ID: <9C66BB92-4496-4B2C-A52F-C3D24B0199DB@gmail.com> Anybody know of any free VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? Chicken of the VNC seems to go to the spinning beach ball of death upon trying to connect to anything, the only other free VNC Viewer that I could find is called JollyFastVNC and that isn't working either (it doesn't crash but it just doesn't do anything.) Otherwise I'll have to hope that VNC works inside Windows XP on Parallels which seems like a crappy workaround. Colin Wheeler http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project From bnew at iastate.edu Sat Nov 10 16:25:03 2007 From: bnew at iastate.edu (Brandon Newendorp) Date: Sat Nov 10 16:26:06 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? In-Reply-To: <9C66BB92-4496-4B2C-A52F-C3D24B0199DB@gmail.com> References: <9C66BB92-4496-4B2C-A52F-C3D24B0199DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Leopard has a VNC viewer built in. Just use the Finder Connect to Server with vnc:// on the address. Or launch Screen Sharing.app...in CoreServices I think. -- Brandon Newendorp On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Colin Wheeler wrote: > Anybody know of any free VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? Chicken > of the VNC seems to go to the spinning beach ball of death upon > trying to connect to anything, the only other free VNC Viewer that I > could find is called JollyFastVNC and that isn't working either (it > doesn't crash but it just doesn't do anything.) Otherwise I'll have > to hope that VNC works inside Windows XP on Parallels which seems > like a crappy workaround. > > Colin Wheeler > http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ > http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. From jamito at iastate.edu Sat Nov 10 16:45:29 2007 From: jamito at iastate.edu (Oscar J Murillo Jr.) Date: Sat Nov 10 16:46:30 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? In-Reply-To: References: <9C66BB92-4496-4B2C-A52F-C3D24B0199DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've been successful in running JollyFastVNC in leopard, not sure what you are doing different though. -OScar On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Brandon Newendorp wrote: > Leopard has a VNC viewer built in. Just use the Finder Connect to > Server with vnc:// on the address. > > Or launch Screen Sharing.app...in CoreServices I think. > > -- > Brandon Newendorp > > On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Colin Wheeler wrote: > >> Anybody know of any free VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? Chicken >> of the VNC seems to go to the spinning beach ball of death upon >> trying to connect to anything, the only other free VNC Viewer that >> I could find is called JollyFastVNC and that isn't working either >> (it doesn't crash but it just doesn't do anything.) Otherwise I'll >> have to hope that VNC works inside Windows XP on Parallels which >> seems like a crappy workaround. >> >> Colin Wheeler >> http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ >> http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. >> >> List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on >> the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest >> preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group >> e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. >> >> Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. From colindw at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 00:56:20 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Sun Nov 11 00:57:22 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? In-Reply-To: References: <9C66BB92-4496-4B2C-A52F-C3D24B0199DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok I've finally figured it out. Previously I created another network location "CHG" for Coach House Gifts (where I work tech support) and put the DNS servers and the search domain in the network location and then created the VPN connection and connected to it through Internet Connect. I attempted to roughly do the same thing in Leopard (minus the fact that there is no internet connect in leopard which is a pain in the butt for me now because Leopard can't seem to remember my VPN password prompting me for it every time I need to connect), but that doesn't work. I removed the DNS and search domain info in the Network location and put it in the VPN connection info and explicitly told it to channel all traffic through the VPN connection. Once I did that the VNC clients began to work and stopped crashing. I've tried the Screen Sharing app and Chicken of the VNC and they both work now. Thanks for telling me about the built in VNC client brandon! I had no idea about that part, just do that vnc:// and the Screen Sharing app comes up and then you can right click on it to keep it in your dock Colin Wheeler http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Brandon Newendorp wrote: > Leopard has a VNC viewer built in. Just use the Finder Connect to > Server with vnc:// on the address. > > Or launch Screen Sharing.app...in CoreServices I think. > > -- > Brandon Newendorp > > On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Colin Wheeler wrote: > >> Anybody know of any free VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? Chicken >> of the VNC seems to go to the spinning beach ball of death upon >> trying to connect to anything, the only other free VNC Viewer that >> I could find is called JollyFastVNC and that isn't working either >> (it doesn't crash but it just doesn't do anything.) Otherwise I'll >> have to hope that VNC works inside Windows XP on Parallels which >> seems like a crappy workaround. >> >> Colin Wheeler >> http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ >> http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. >> >> List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on >> the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest >> preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group >> e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. >> >> Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. From bnew at iastate.edu Sun Nov 11 17:37:20 2007 From: bnew at iastate.edu (Brandon Newendorp) Date: Sun Nov 11 17:38:17 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? In-Reply-To: References: <9C66BB92-4496-4B2C-A52F-C3D24B0199DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6E4A7B85-ADC5-42ED-8AE7-2B7EAAFC1980@iastate.edu> I was typing that last message on my iPhone so I didn't want to write too much, but I thought I'd add a bit to this. You can actually type vnc://*ipaddress* in a lot of places to launch Screen Sharing.app. Safari, clickable links in emails, iChat, Finder's Connect to Server, etc. Leopard just ties the vnc:// protocol to Screen Sharing.app. -- Brandon Newendorp On Nov 11, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Colin Wheeler wrote: > Ok I've finally figured it out. Previously I created another network > location "CHG" for Coach House Gifts (where I work tech support) and > put the DNS servers and the search domain in the network location > and then created the VPN connection and connected to it through > Internet Connect. I attempted to roughly do the same thing in > Leopard (minus the fact that there is no internet connect in leopard > which is a pain in the butt for me now because Leopard can't seem to > remember my VPN password prompting me for it every time I need to > connect), but that doesn't work. I removed the DNS and search domain > info in the Network location and put it in the VPN connection info > and explicitly told it to channel all traffic through the VPN > connection. > > Once I did that the VNC clients began to work and stopped crashing. > I've tried the Screen Sharing app and Chicken of the VNC and they > both work now. Thanks for telling me about the built in VNC client > brandon! I had no idea about that part, just do that vnc:// and the > Screen Sharing app comes up and then you can right click on it to > keep it in your dock > > Colin Wheeler > http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ > http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project > > On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Brandon Newendorp wrote: > >> Leopard has a VNC viewer built in. Just use the Finder Connect to >> Server with vnc:// on the address. >> >> Or launch Screen Sharing.app...in CoreServices I think. >> >> -- >> Brandon Newendorp >> >> On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Colin Wheeler wrote: >> >>> Anybody know of any free VNC Viewers that work on Leopard? Chicken >>> of the VNC seems to go to the spinning beach ball of death upon >>> trying to connect to anything, the only other free VNC Viewer that >>> I could find is called JollyFastVNC and that isn't working either >>> (it doesn't crash but it just doesn't do anything.) Otherwise I'll >>> have to hope that VNC works inside Windows XP on Parallels which >>> seems like a crappy workaround. >>> >>> Colin Wheeler >>> http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. >>> >>> List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on >>> the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. >>> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest >>> preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group >>> e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. >>> >>> Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. From cacolby3 at iastate.edu Sun Nov 11 23:31:43 2007 From: cacolby3 at iastate.edu (Clark Colby) Date: Sun Nov 11 23:32:47 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Macbook Pro Internal Hard Drive Message-ID: <42EFD0B7-6E3D-497B-9073-260D8F417FB2@iastate.edu> So i was originally planning on buying a new external hard drive but i think i have changed my mind to buying an internal. I was looking at the Apple store but it seems like they are over priced. I then started shopping online and found a Hitachi 200 GB 7200rpm Sata Hard Drive. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp? ProductCode=10005818&prodlist=pricegrabber it is $187 here and $204 at NewEgg. It really scares me to think about losing all of my documents and programs on my current hard drive and would really appreciate some help with the switch. My first question is if the hard drive i am looking at is a good one? Secondly does it void the macbooks warranty to add a new hard drive? Third where to i store all the programs or information during the change? I have an external hard drive but it is full as well..... I am hoping when i take out this 80GB internal i can buy a case for it. So my last question is what is a good small case not to expensive for the old internal hard drive? Thank you, Clark Colby From tedger at iastate.edu Sun Nov 11 23:53:03 2007 From: tedger at iastate.edu (Trevin Ward) Date: Sun Nov 11 23:53:59 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Macbook Pro Internal Hard Drive Message-ID: Clark, I'd recommend against the Hitachi drive. Hitachi doesn't have the finest reputation and neither did IBM (where it bought it's hard drive business from). Toshiba and Seagate (although possible issues on the Seagate front might not make them the best choice currently) are probably your better choices. Part of the reason Hitachi (and Fujitsu) tend to have faster bigger drives out first is their quality assurance isn't the best. As far as external cases go there a number of decent small enclosures you can get, although SATA->Firewire drives are few and expensive so USB 2 might be the only viable choice. Newegg carries 19 such drive enclosures: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010090092+1053807124+1054107131+1054207132&name=USB+2.0 As far as doing the installation yourself I'd recommend against it. Working on and in a Macbook pro for anything other then replacing the memory isn't a small task for most and a lot of people will end up messing up their computer in the process. Technically no, replacing your drive doesn't void your warranty, but it does if anything is damaged. Secondly apple wont cover anything related to Hard Drive problems (although most Apple Authorized Service providers probably will). I'd recommend taking the machine, purchased drive and enclosure into either Computer Service in 74 Durham (I should note here that I work at Computer Service so this isn't an entirely unbiased recommendation). It'll be ~$52 for the drive installation (that's an hour's labor) and if you're interested in a "backup" we can image your old drive and move it to your new one (we do this service pretty frequently but it's under our backup services hence the quotes) that's $41. Alternatively you can just take the "new" external drive and install OS X on your machine and when it asks if you want to move data from an old mac just hook up the old drive and it'll move your Data over with a fresh install to boot. I don't know their services as well but Heartland Technology are the only other Apple Authorized Service providers in Ames, they're located on 13th St. out by the I-35 interchange, they probably can provide similar services. Trevin Ward -- Trevin Ward Director of Information Technology Government of the Student Body Senior, Political Science Iowa State University On Nov 11, 2007 11:31 PM, Clark Colby wrote: > So i was originally planning on buying a new external hard drive but > i think i have changed my mind to buying an internal. I was looking > at the Apple store but it seems like they are over priced. I then > started shopping online and found a Hitachi 200 GB 7200rpm Sata Hard > Drive. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp? > ProductCode=10005818&prodlist=pricegrabber it is $187 here and $204 > at NewEgg. > It really scares me to think about losing all of my documents and > programs on my current hard drive and would really appreciate some > help with the switch. > My first question is if the hard drive i am looking at is a good one? > Secondly does it void the macbooks warranty to add a new hard drive? > Third where to i store all the programs or information during the > change? I have an external hard drive but it is full as well..... I > am hoping when i take out this 80GB internal i can buy a case for it. > So my last question is what is a good small case not to expensive for > the old internal hard drive? > > Thank you, > Clark Colby > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. > From nickmeyer07 at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 06:27:37 2007 From: nickmeyer07 at gmail.com (Nicholas Meyer) Date: Mon Nov 12 06:28:36 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Macbook Pro Internal Hard Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60C8459E-7973-4BB5-B915-5C2C54A8F704@gmail.com> Seconded on the Hitachi front. They are getting a lot better than they used to be, but I'd still be a little bit nervous after the "DeathStar" incident. As far as installing it yourself, as Trevor said, just the act of installing it will not void your warranty. However, if you're comfortable working inside a computer, you have the right tools (patience, a spudger, and an anti-static wrist wrap would be on this list), and you carefully keep track of where all the screws go, you should be ok. When I did my upgrade a couple of weeks ago, the hardest part was easing the top case off of the bottom case; once that's taken care of, the rest is pretty easy. The connectors, while delicate, fit together cleanly and are easily removed and reattached, and SATA laptop drives are a godsend (no more bent pins!) That having been said, if you're skittish at all about it, just take it in to a professional. A lot of hobbyists (myself included) would be a little nervous about liability issues helping with the actual switch. As far as the external case goes, I ended up going with a Vantec Nexstar 3 enclosure. The build quality is excellent. Be aware that there are very few (if any) 2.5" SATA enclosures that have FireWire connections, so prepare to lose a USB port (which may be an issue if you have the first-gen MBP) or perhaps consider getting an eSATA interface card that utilizes the ExpressCard slot in your machine. -Nick On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:53 PM, Trevin Ward wrote: > Clark, > I'd recommend against the Hitachi drive. Hitachi doesn't have the > finest reputation and neither did IBM (where it bought it's hard drive > business from). Toshiba and Seagate (although possible issues on the > Seagate front might not make them the best choice currently) are > probably your better choices. Part of the reason Hitachi (and > Fujitsu) tend to have faster bigger drives out first is their quality > assurance isn't the best. As far as external cases go there a number > of decent small enclosures you can get, although SATA->Firewire drives > are few and expensive so USB 2 might be the only viable choice. Newegg > carries 19 such drive enclosures: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010090092+1053807124+1054107131+1054207132&name=USB+2.0 > > As far as doing the installation yourself I'd recommend against it. > Working on and in a Macbook pro for anything other then replacing > the memory isn't a small task for most and a lot of people will end up > messing up their computer in the process. Technically no, replacing > your drive doesn't void your warranty, but it does if anything is > damaged. Secondly apple wont cover anything related to Hard Drive > problems (although most Apple Authorized Service providers probably > will). I'd recommend taking the machine, purchased drive and > enclosure into either Computer Service in 74 Durham (I should note > here that I work at Computer Service so this isn't an entirely > unbiased recommendation). It'll be ~$52 for the drive installation > (that's an hour's labor) and if you're interested in a "backup" we can > image your old drive and move it to your new one (we do this service > pretty frequently but it's under our backup services hence the quotes) > that's $41. Alternatively you can just take the "new" external drive > and install OS X on your machine and when it asks if you want to move > data from an old mac just hook up the old drive and it'll move your > Data over with a fresh install to boot. I don't know their services > as well but Heartland Technology are the only other Apple Authorized > Service providers in Ames, they're located on 13th St. out by the I-35 > interchange, they probably can provide similar services. > > Trevin Ward > > > -- > Trevin Ward > Director of Information Technology > Government of the Student Body > Senior, Political Science > Iowa State University > > > On Nov 11, 2007 11:31 PM, Clark Colby wrote: >> So i was originally planning on buying a new external hard drive but >> i think i have changed my mind to buying an internal. I was looking >> at the Apple store but it seems like they are over priced. I then >> started shopping online and found a Hitachi 200 GB 7200rpm Sata Hard >> Drive. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp? >> ProductCode=10005818&prodlist=pricegrabber it is $187 here and $204 >> at NewEgg. >> It really scares me to think about losing all of my documents and >> programs on my current hard drive and would really appreciate some >> help with the switch. >> My first question is if the hard drive i am looking at is a good one? >> Secondly does it void the macbooks warranty to add a new hard drive? >> Third where to i store all the programs or information during the >> change? I have an external hard drive but it is full as well..... I >> am hoping when i take out this 80GB internal i can buy a case for it. >> So my last question is what is a good small case not to expensive for >> the old internal hard drive? >> >> Thank you, >> Clark Colby >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. >> >> List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on >> the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest >> preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group >> e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. >> >> Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. From cacolby3 at iastate.edu Mon Nov 12 10:50:03 2007 From: cacolby3 at iastate.edu (Clark Colby) Date: Mon Nov 12 10:51:05 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Thank you all very much! Message-ID: <85D1D163-F71E-43DC-9545-758247C960E7@iastate.edu> Thank you very much for all the wonderful information it really helps! I am in somewhat of a dilemma now on which drive to buy! I was really excited about a 200GB 7200 rpm drive! Now with the comments about Hitachi not being the best i am back to the drawing board. I really wanted the extra space and the thought of speed was very compelling. I researched other drives by seagate and toshiba and from what i am finding they do not run in the higher sizes or speeds at this time. Do you think there would be any reason to wait for those companies to come out with the larger and faster drives? How bad is Hitachi? I read all the reviews on Newegg and people seemed to like it there was one person out of 60 that said it died after 3 months is that a bad ratio? Everyone else seemed to think it was fine! On the other hand i would be devastated to lose everything! Thanks, Clark Colby From bnew at iastate.edu Tue Nov 13 20:57:45 2007 From: bnew at iastate.edu (Brandon Newendorp) Date: Tue Nov 13 20:59:09 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Meeting Announce Message-ID: This week, we'll be meeting as normal on Thursday, Nov. 15 in Howe 1242 at 7PM. We'll be continuing our discussion and presentation about Leopard. Feel free to come with questions about Leopard or other Mac/iPod/iPhone related questions. You're also welcome to bring your computer and Leopard Install DVD if you'd like some help getting up and running with Leopard. -- Brandon Newendorp President - AmesMUG From colindw at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 12:37:57 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Sat Nov 17 12:39:26 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: OmniFocus is now on pre-sale (big discount for students & edu staff) Message-ID: <7FD5F626-763B-496C-BD9E-220EA89A0DFD@gmail.com> I hate to sound like a spam e-mail but If you haven't seen yet the OmniGroup just announced yesterday that OmniFocus dev cycle is winding down and they are now taking pre-orders and it will be released on January 8th. The regular pricing will be about $80, but if you pre- order it now you'll get a big discount down to $40 (50% off) for regular pricing, and if you go to their educational store for edu pricing it goes down to about $24.95 for a $80 product. So if your remotely interested it'd be a good time to order it now and get 69% off the regular price while it's cheap. If you want to know more about OmniFocus the page & a instructional video are at http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnifocus/ the built in to-do lists in leopard I find are great for short term stuff (stuff for today or tomorrow at most) but once you use OmniFocus and sync it with iCal it's great for the important long term personal project planning. Colin Wheeler http://code.google.com/p/redflag/ http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project From cacolby3 at iastate.edu Mon Nov 26 16:10:37 2007 From: cacolby3 at iastate.edu (Clark Colby) Date: Mon Nov 26 16:12:53 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Cut power cord.... Message-ID: So i was in studio today and my friend cut the power cord on his macbook. I was wondering if anyone possibly had an old extra cord or if someone knew how to fix the cord? The cord is different than most there is an insulated part in the center of the rest of the wires. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated! On another subject is there a noticeable or worthwhile difference in a 5400 vs 7200 rpm hard drive? The 7200 rpm i understand drains the battery faster but also reads faster. The 5400 rpm has the larger capacities which is what i want. Should i just buy the 5400? I hate expensive decisions especially when they become outdated so fast! Thanks everyone! Clark Colby From tedger at iastate.edu Mon Nov 26 16:50:50 2007 From: tedger at iastate.edu (Trevin Ward) Date: Mon Nov 26 16:53:01 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: Cut power cord.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What part of the cord was cut? The part going from the wall to the adapter (AC) or the part from the adapter to the computer (DC)? There really isn't a good way to "fix it" and connecting the wrong wires together has the potential to damage the macbook itself. The best route is to replace the cord itself, the AC cord is fairly cheap but can only be ordered as a service part so he'll have to either go into Computer Service in 74 Durham, the Apple Store in Jordan Creek, or contact Apple Support online or by phone. If it's the DC cord the adapter itself will need to be replaced and it's cheaper to buy a new one then have it "fixed" (replaced) as a service part. He can pickup one of those at the University Bookstore. Trevin On Nov 26, 2007 4:10 PM, Clark Colby wrote: > So i was in studio today and my friend cut the power cord on his > macbook. I was wondering if anyone possibly had an old extra cord or > if someone knew how to fix the cord? The cord is different than most > there is an insulated part in the center of the rest of the wires. > > Any information or help would be greatly appreciated! > > On another subject is there a noticeable or worthwhile difference in > a 5400 vs 7200 rpm hard drive? The 7200 rpm i understand drains the > battery faster but also reads faster. The 5400 rpm has the larger > capacities which is what i want. Should i just buy the 5400? I hate > expensive decisions especially when they become outdated so fast! > > Thanks everyone! > > Clark Colby > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Send AmesMUG mailing list submissions to amesmug@amesmug.org. > > List archives sorted by posting date and thread are available on > the web at http://www.amesmug.org/pipermail/amesmug. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change your digest/non-digest > preferences for the Ames Macintosh Users Group > e-mail list, please visit http://www.amesmug.org/lists/. > > Please send any feedback you may have to amesmug-owner@amesmug.org. > -- Trevin Ward Director of Information Technology Government of the Student Body Senior, Political Science Iowa State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Email Brandon (bnew@iastate.edu) to get an answer. -- Brandon Newendorp President - AmesMUG From colindw at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 18:17:32 2007 From: colindw at gmail.com (Colin Wheeler) Date: Tue Nov 27 18:18:32 2007 Subject: AmesMUG: LANFest Announcement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI - we really need to put this on the website and/or the calendar feed at the very least not everybody has the good fortune of being available every night. If it's not on the iCal feed or the website I can't take nights off ahead of time, if you posted this a little earlier more people might come as well. Now Im scrambling to see if I can get someone to take over my shift on Friday :( I thought this was in December actually. Also why hasn't the AmesMUG iCal feed been updated at all? Between iCal and OmniFocus I practically live off those 2 apps for making sure I am not missing any events. Events like this you should be promoting early and not this late Colin Wheeler http://code.google.com/p/redflag http://groups.google.com/group/redflag-project On Nov 27, 2007 11:44 AM, Brandon Newendorp wrote: > As is our tradition, AmesMUG will host LANFest this Friday evening at > 7PM in the lower level of Howe Hall. LANFest is an event that we host > every semester that offers members to bring their computers and have a > fun evening of playing network games. Recently we've expanded LANFest > to include console games as well (planning on Playstation2 and Wii > this time). Pizza, pop and snacks are provided to all paid members of > AmesMUG. If you want to attend and haven't paid dues yet, you can pay > at LANFest - $10 for the year. > > If you'd like to attend LANFest, just show up that night with your > computer. We'll provide network cables, power strips, headphones and > food. Have questions? 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